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drizzt134 · Jul 13, 2005, 06:48 PM // 18:48

oh one more thing. monks rock. they are the backbones of a team and if there is sth wrong with the dialogues in a team during a mission thats not game's but people who play it. so STOP blaming the game like little kiddos and please put your head between your hands and think if u ever been in an argument like that: 'where did I go wrong?'... always look for the answer in nearest place (which is you if u of course)

Loviatar · Jul 13, 2005, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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It's madam.

If I missed a bannable offense by Garric in this thread, please point it out to me and I will publicly apologize for having missed it.

hi

the reason you dont see the bannable offense material is that it is deleted so as not to clutter up or remain to offend people.

recent prime example are the posts by the poster who hit multiple forums with spam for buying GW gold for cash.

others by people were a blast at people which were cleaned up.

if it is nasty and/or personal enough it will be cleaned up

that is why it is not there to refer to

drizzt134 · Jul 13, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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If he or anyone he were to use henchmen often (which people do), that's a clear sign that GW community has a bad community. People only pick henchmen because they don't bitch.
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Well, what can I say... Sorry for being a bitch... lol... This far I have seen 2 sissy boys who started to yell at the group, cry, swear, call ppl noobs etc since I started playing (its been more than 2 months now) and I suspect if u were one of em since u said it. If you behave yourself in the game like you do in the real world there is no way thay you will get in a discussion with some1. And i try to get ppl as much as i can but when its 5am in the morning its hard to find 8ppl together. Well I guess then you need henchies, rite?

DiAnna · Jul 13, 2005, 07:14 PM // 19:14

I understand and appreciate that offensive stuff gets deleted. However, there is a raft of pretty vile offensive stuff by others still in this thread... and I've noticed in other threads that when stuff is deleted by a Mod, there is usually an edit note to that effect left in the thread.

Bottom line, Garric's posts in this thread were well-written, if controversial, and did not appear to be the work of a foul-mouthed adolescent flamer... which is more than I can say of some posts. Hence, my confusion... and my apprehension.

My last post on this topic lest my own name suddenly appear to be grayed out! Thanks to those who replied to me. I'll move on now... but I will continue to feel a bit cautious and stilted as I make comments that some might disagree with.

CaptainGuru · Jul 13, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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FYI, I took it off. Like I said, it defeats the whole purpose. I dislike your unnecesary pessimism and negativity towards everything, and would honestly rather not bother with you. You realy aren't worth arguing with. But, if I must know you said something, I'd rather know what it was.

I'm not worth arguing yet you took down your ignore to hear what I had to say. Like I said, you contradict yourself when you talk. And you need to grow up, this isn't a nice world and they will always people who have negative things to say. But you fail to see the positive changes that come out of constructive criticism. There will always be people opposite views of your own and putting someone on your ignore list, flaming them or troll their doesn't make them anymore wrong. As said you need to leave these messageboard if you can't talk with anyone over anything, including a disagreement.

Trolls aren't people with negative comments, they are people like yourself who come up with illogical views to disagree with something. Many of the points Garric has said, have been made by players on this forum, chatroom and other GW related forums. He said has taken everything he and other people dislike in about this game and put it in this topic for everyone to read and you have the nerve to call him a negative person. He was merely pointing out the flaws that can easily be fixed by using some thinking. But that's not the way you or anyone wants to handle things. It has to be your way.

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The point has been explained. The offensive stuff usualy gets deleted to get threads back on track.

We've all said offensive stuff or troll on other forms, yet no one here gets warn nor do the threads get close down once they get to that point.

theclam · Jul 13, 2005, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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These three statements right here contradict each other. If you can breeze through the game, get the best armor later on in the game and you have to make it to near end-game get to get a challenge then this game isn't all that hard. All three statements are a failed attempt to make this game seem recognize as a hard game. And doesn't FoW and UW have a pvp aspect?

Let me clarify it for you. The game is hard without Monks (starting about when you get into the Northern Shiverpeaks). The game is easy with Monks, up until the Ascension missions. Since 90% of the time, you'll have a Monk (be it Alesia or a PC), the game is easy up until the Ascension missions, when it becomes challenging.

FoW and UW have a PvP aspect, but you are in no way required to do PvP in order to go there.

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Actually, to get from one new area to the other, you are required to grinding. As you run to the new area, monsters will try to fight you. As I said in the last topic, 5 out of 6 class can attack at a distance. Most of the monsters were shamelessly given attacks and spell similar to their class counter parts. Because 5 out of 6 of those monsters can attack at a distance, they pursue you all over the map, chain aggroing their original group and other groups they come across. So you are force to kill every group you come across to prevent a calamity.

I don't understand. The only new areas that you are required to get to are destinations of quests or missions in the main story line (yes, I count the 3 desert missions as part of a "quest," because the NPCs tell you about them, even though it isn't in your quest log). Is it grinding to be expected to fight your way through quests and missions?

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Now as for missions and quests, they are a grind all in themselves. As I said in the last topic, you can easily chain aggro 10 to 20 monsters. Out of those 10 to 20 monsters, they are going to drops something. The reason people have a lot of money after doing quests and mission is because the monster drop a lot junk, which what I said in my review. 70% of the time you find yourself in front a merchant selling stuff you can't even use. Majority of this stuff junk, especially to the warrior.

If you're careful, you won't chain aggro 10-20 monsters. Plus, the 10-20 mob fights are the most fun, especially when you just barely beat them. Is it grinding to fight mobs in this game?

As for the drops, majority of the stuff is junk to most of the classes. You can't make everything useful to everyone, when different classes want different types of items. Is it grinding when you don't get good gear in every mission?

I have to say that even though I don't agree with Captain Guru and Garric, they are at least civil.

drizzt134 · Jul 13, 2005, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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I've played since beta and people can get down right critical about anything from missions, quests or pvp. It's hard to find people because are looking for specific combinations, specific class, specific groups or specific levels. A level 16 warrior is not going to enlist a level 8 monk into his group. A level 15 Elementalist is not going to stay in a mission, he has already done and will drop out after doing the bonus. And list goes on and on.

I'm sorry you haven't experience any of this, but your claim doesn't moot the point made by posters on this board, chatroom and other forums that are GW related.

what im trying to say is i guess clear and pretty much more GW related than the ongoing "why ppls stuff gets deleted" discussion. Or isn't it?

And yeah I guess I am a bit lucky so I get the right guys (or they get me) then...

Dudededu · Jul 13, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07

I do feel some people here focus way to much on the negative. Personally if I play a game for over a week and still find flaws that frustrate me I just stop playing it. Regardless of what anyone else thinks really... agree or dissagree.

There are things I dont like about GW(non have been mentioned here btw). But the overall game is good to me and it makes those things I dont like mostly insignificant.

Someone may love it... others will hate it. Can't please everyone, but there are always other games that may suit you.

CaptainGuru · Jul 13, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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